Saturday, August 06, 2005

"Bible Bashing For Dummies"

Recently, in a heated debate about an article on Howard Dean's comments: "Bible says nothing about gay marriage" (don't miss it, very good read!) I ran into a fearless Christophobe and homosexuality advocate who evidently thought (he/she?) had the ultimate weapon to use on us "Bible thumping homophobic bigots"

So (he/she?) referred to the homosexual activists field manual, turned to the "Bible Bashing For Dummies" section and posted a series of rhetorical straw man arguments masquerading as questions on the discussion forum.

These "questions" were originally contrived and designed to embarrass and silence Dr Laura Schlessinger who is a radio personality who dispenses advice to people who call in to her radio show. A few years back, she said, rightly, that homosexuality is an abomination according to Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstances.

An open letter to Dr. Laura was penned in 2000, and posted on the Internet. It has since made the the rounds, and is now used to embarrass and silence those [Bible Thumper homophobic bigots] that uses a Biblical reference as proof that Christians shouldn't tolerate or accept homosexuality AKA "Gay Marriage" Here's the response.... (I've taken the liberty to post the "questions" in their favorite font color PINK.


1. When I burn a bull on the alter as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev. 1:9). The problem is my neighbors: they claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?



If they don't like a good Bar- B-Que smote away! **Joke**

No. You need a Israelite priest to offer the sacrifice for you in the Temple in Jerusalem; you can't just do it yourself in your own back yard. Even then you'll have a problem!

The Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. But stop believing in the pleasing odor of animal sacrifices anyway, for it is written that the blood of bulls and goats can never take away sin (Heb 10:4). You need to believe that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross takes away all your sin, now and forever. As to violence against your neighbours, that will have you hauled up in front of the judge for a breach of the peace and assault charges at a minimum under any system of law, ancient or modern.

In this era there is no longer a need for animal sacrifice for the atonement of sin : John 1:26-29 John the Baptist:
1:26 John answered them, “I baptize with water. Among you stands one whom you do not recognize, 1:27 who is coming after me. I am not worthy to untie the strap of his sandal!” 1:28 These things happened in Bethany across the Jordan River where John was baptizing.

1:29 On the next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said “Look, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 2:17. In this day and age, what do you think a fair price for her would be?


It actually says 'maidservant' not slave. You'd have to be in pretty dire straights 3,000 years ago to sell your children as servants, but I guess they would at least get fed and housed then. Anyway, back to your daughter. I think you would do better to send her to college and then see if she can't get a job. Mind you, most jobs today are just wage-slavery, aren't they? We spend 45% of our time working for the tax-man. Who can be totally free? Only those who trust in Jesus and know the truth will be free, as it is written,'The truth shall make you free.' (John 8:32)

In your case I have to point out the fact that Slavery (in the context you used) is illegal and obedience to the laws of your State/ Country would be advisable Legally and Biblically...


Romans 13

Submission to Civil Government

13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except by God’s appointment, and the authorities that exist have been instituted by God. 13:2 So the person who resists such authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will incur judgment 13:3 (for rulers cause no fear for good conduct but for bad). Do you desire not to fear authority? Do good and you will receive its commendation, 13:4 for it is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be in fear, for it does not bear the sword in vain. It is God’s servant to administer retribution on the wrongdoer. 13:5 Therefore it is necessary to be in subjection, not only because of the wrath of the authorities but also because of your conscience. 13:6 For this reason you also pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants devoted to governing. 13:7 Pay everyone what is owed: taxes to whom taxes are due, revenue to whom revenue is due, respect to whom respect is due, honor to whom honor is due.

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness. (Lev. 15:19-24) The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

This has to do with purity of worship in the Temple Not just sexual intercourse (we would all be agreed on that) but even touching a menstruating woman made the one who touched her unclean. It has passed. When theTemple in Jerusalem was sacked in 70 AD, as Jesus prophesied, it was already 40 years past its use-by date. The sacrifice of Jesus in AD 30 (+/- a year or two) had rendered the doings of theTemple obsolete. Even the veil of the Temple (which separated the Holy of Holies from the rest of Temple was torn in two (Matt 27:51) at His death.

Believe in His death and you will be forgiven. Believe in His resurrection and you will live. If the matter you raise still troubles you, then should avoid all contactwith women other than your own wife. And if you don't know when she is in what you describe as her period of uncleanliness, then heaven help you.

4. Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?


It doesn't actually say slaves, it says 'bondmen and bondmaids'. People who were poor bonded themselves or their children to someone wealthy. It was a form of social security. The concept of slavery as known in modern terms was referred to by Moses as "bondage". It is also written (Exod 21:16) that anyone who steals a man to sell him shall be put to death.

Refer to Romans 13 again: Slavery was abolished in the U S after civil war 1862-1865


5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states that he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

John 5:16-21
5:16 Now because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began persecuting him. 5:17 So he told them, “My Father is working until now, and I too am working.” 5:18 For this reason the Jewish leaders were trying even harder to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was also calling God his own Father, thus making himself equal with God.

5:19 So Jesus answered them, “I tell you the solemn truth, the Son can do nothing on his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, the Son does likewise. 5:20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him everything he does,and will show him greater deeds than these, so that you will be amazed. 5:21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whomever he wishes.

Just remember the Sabbath and keep it holy like the commandment says, and keep in mind that in this era of Grace we no longer stone sinners.

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

Mark 7:18-23
7:18 He [Jesus] said to them, “Are you so foolish? Don't you understand that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him? 7:19 For it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and then goes out into the sewer.” (This means all foods are clean.) 7:20 He said, “What comes out of a person defiles him. 7:21 For from within, out of the human heart, come evil ideas, sexual immorality, theft, murder, 7:22 adultery, greed, evil, deceit, debauchery, envy, slander, pride, and folly. 7:23 All these evils come from within and defile a person.”

But in any case, the clean and unclean animals distinction has gone with Peter's vision in the book of Acts 10.14-15. So the New Testament abolishes the Old Testament food laws. However, the New Testament confirms that homosexual activity is an abomination.

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the alter of the Lord if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20 or is there some wiggle room here?


This applies to the High Priest of ancient Israel, who entered into the Holy of holies once a year on the Day of Atonement. I suppose God has a right to say who was going to approach Him in the Holy of holies. But even if you are a cohen, (A) you won't find theTemple still standing today and(B) all that Temple ritual is past. Jesus has been and has offered Himself for the sins of all who will believe in Him.

Job done. Finished.


The Gospel of St. John
9:39 Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, so that those who do not see may gain their sight, and the ones who see may become blind.”
9:Some of the Pharisees who were with him heard this and asked him, “We are not blind too, are we?” 9:41 Jesus replied, “If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin, but now because you claim that you can see, your guilt remains.”

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? - Lev.24:10-16.


God Himself rescinded the dietary laws for the sake of the Gentiles in Peters vision(Acts 10.14-15). Among other things likethe ritualistic laws mentioned above, crop mingling, blended fabrics, even Circumcision!

There no longer remains any sin that anyone must be stoned for. We now live in the era of Grace. Christ paid the penalty for all sin on the Cross of Calvary, even the sin of the homosexual.

In this era we do not stone sinners, we preach the Gospel of Christ to them. The homosexual, like the adulterer, needs the salvation that Christ can bring. They do not need to be stoned, they need to be saved so that they can "go and sin no more".